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06 Apr 2019 06:59 #31 by Benjamin Ashby (ThomasD)
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Alright. You claim the Duke may be innocent. Are we ignoring the fact that when the Duke and Ser Tristam argued, he said something proving that he was by no stretch innocent? The Duke asked where Tristam's loyalties were, Tristam replied "to Kormye." The Duke's response was "Which Kormyre? MY Kormyre?" That advisor/warlock/whatever he was called out "You know what you must do Emperor". If you think he's innocent, you are delusional. The Duke has slaughtered many trying to get where he was. It's clear that the Duke will not stop at conquering Travance. I've seen war. I've seen people die. No General of any kind is "innocent". You don't get that kind of command without having blood on your hands.

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06 Apr 2019 08:02 #32 by Khala Stormbringer (Jymme)
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Duke Baliol and Lord Chancellor Enzarond murdered my Knight in front of me. They did it knowlingly and did it because he stood before them to defend the people he so loved. There is no honor or justice in that. There will be justice for Tristram. No matter what you seem to think, they are not innocent bystanders and they will be dealt with accordingly. I only hope that the final blow to the Duke can be by my hand or that of his wife Ser Yvain, in revenge for Tristram.

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06 Apr 2019 09:15 - 06 Apr 2019 09:20 #33 by Chris D (Brogan)
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I'm a True Warlock. The Advisor made a deal. He accepted the symbiote period. He willingly became a Warlock. That being said my concern and investigation is to see how many of the Council are involved.
And to those that call Warlocks disgusting or monsters or whatever. Remember there are people out there that are warlocks and help this town frequently before you put your 2 copper out there.

Also the elf man willingly accepted the symbiote. He made a deal. The difference was he was able to be set free and wanted to be free.

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06 Apr 2019 09:51 #34 by Starling (starling)
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Dr. Willowyn,

The Quinarian man you refer to is Renior Fai, the selfsame man that everyone else refers to. I have read his journals, and spoken to him and his former symbiote, and what all these experts have told you is true. I encourage you to do your own research, if you are a man of learning, because I have confidence it will lead you to the same result: True Warlocks must become what they are willingly, else they would not be True Warlocks. If you want resources to begin this study or suggested avenues of inquiry, feel free to ask.

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06 Apr 2019 11:32 #35 by Grimkjell Eirson (BillHannings)
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Squire Keladry Aybara.

I agree, that the duke should fall. But be careful of thoughts of revenge. Such things ill-maintain a person for long, and after achieving such things one is often left hollow, and the revenge becomes cyclical and obsessive until all one is left as is a weapon and instrument of vengeance.

Thank you to Jonah for explaining what happened in very specific detail, and thank you Starling for your explanation of True Warlocks.

Hjolda, if nothing else I am learning a lot about the nature of our foes from this discussion!



If you wish the details of this, as they aren't important to the matter at hand, send me a missive. But in the meantime, concentrate on defeating the Duke's forces and delivering the people of Kormyre. From the understanding I have gleaned of your knight by your writings as well as those of others here, I would imagine that would be his priority.

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06 Apr 2019 15:38 - 06 Apr 2019 15:39 #36 by Captain Jackdaw (Captain Jackdaw)
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Every single person from Grimwyr that was mind controlled to attack us, that we had to kill because they were robbed of the ability to seek mercy.

These are the innocent people who died by the actions of the leadership. I respect your loyalty to your former masters, but until you speak louder on behalf of the innocent dead than asking for forgiveness to their unrepentant murderers your words lack the compassion you claim to have.

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06 Apr 2019 19:32 #37 by Gabriel Chance (Kiellor)
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I feel like my work here is done.

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08 Apr 2019 11:36 #38 by Dame Laurent-Belmont (amalthea)
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Dr. Willowyn,

I am Dame Amalthea Laurent-Belmont, representative for house Laurent-Belmont on the Hunter's Council. If you'd like a formal education regarding the ecology of True Warlocks, I suggest you seek myself, Marika Laurent-Belmont, Seamus Laurent-Belmont, Lady Kleidin of Kaladonia, or my fellow knight, Dame Kestrel of Kaladonia. We would be happy to teach you valuable lessons on the nature of these creatures. Due to their inherent insidious danger, and you apparent lack of information, I would also suggest that for the time being, you keep a safe distance from this matter, lest you succumb to the monsters as others have before you.

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08 Apr 2019 13:14 - 08 Apr 2019 13:17 #39 by Seth (Kurteth)
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And quite frankly, it doesn't matter if he was willing or not.


I will kill him.

And if you get in my way I'll kill you too.

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08 Apr 2019 14:11 #40 by Zanthios Tartaros (Zanthios)
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Jonah,

The Duke could be possessed by the symbiote. Further investigation is perhaps needed before passing true judgement. Maybe the symbiote is intelligent or is controlled by intelligence and had chosen hosts with power. The Duke is related to the king who passed away. If the intention of the symbiote is to control all in the empire then maybe possessing the Duke was a probable way to do it, so maybe they or it did. Maybe there’s probable cause to my claimes. It could be right.

I thank the appropriate contributors for your input.

For those who were wrong and inappropriate, I hope you learn to value necessary inquiry, morality, and manners.

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08 Apr 2019 14:16 #41 by Gabriel Chance (Kiellor)
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Yes, one can hope you learned those important lessons Doctor.

I doubt it, but hey if I didn't have hope I'd only have the crushing sense of despair for future generations.

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08 Apr 2019 14:17 - 08 Apr 2019 14:20 #42 by Zanthios Tartaros (Zanthios)
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Seth,

I hope the Kingdom seeks to help you.
It seems as if you’re in need of assistance.
If it is anger you struggle with maybe I can assist you. As a physician I invite you to seek me out if you need council.

We should work together to do the best for the people and Arawyn. Your threat is treasonous to peace and is wrong.

I hope justice finds you


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08 Apr 2019 14:22 - 08 Apr 2019 14:24 #43 by Seth (Kurteth)
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Willowyn,

I don't know you, and I don't care.

Get in my way, and I will cut you down

KILL YOU

That is a promise.

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08 Apr 2019 14:26 - 08 Apr 2019 14:26 #44 by Zanthios Tartaros (Zanthios)
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Seth,

Do you need to know someone to treat them correctly? If so then maybe that’s a flaw.

I’ll be perhaps be sure to report you to the appropriate person or persons.

I wish you luck.


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08 Apr 2019 14:38 #45 by Liz (Liz)
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Are you serious right now? An EXPERT in True Warlocks- the VERY thing you CLAIM you wish to know more about- has answered you and offered you knowledge and you literally spit in her face, don't acknowledge what she's said and continue spouting (I always loved that word- such a nice visual image) your own nonsense? What is wrong with you? I reiterate my previous request- someone please look at this man's mind and see if HE is possessed. Because its either that or he is a very dangerously ignorant man. Or a traitor who cares more about the people who DESTROYED OUR HOME than anyone else. And I'm not sure at this point which is more dangerous. Either way, I don't want him around me until he is cleared of... whatever this is.

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08 Apr 2019 14:38 #46 by Tom P (Father Ridigan)
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Dr. Cloud Willowyn,
A friendly reminder to a fellow refugee. As someone directly under the Magister, who was summarily executed for his part in his brother's plot, you only made it out of Grimwyr because we needed healers to survive the escape.

That stipulation no longer applies. Don't press your Luck.

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08 Apr 2019 15:12 #47 by LoisMaxwell (LoisMaxwell)
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For those attempting to follow along with this bewildering "discourse"and might be a bit confused:

1) A "true warlock" is the name given to the being that is both host & symbiote, though it is sometimes used to refer to just the symbiote alone.
2) The symbiote is an intelligent, sapient demon from the Abyssal Plane of Shadow.
3) Like all demons, the symbiote cannot exist on the Material Plane without an anchor for long. The host serves as the anchor.
4) The host must willingly allow the symbiote to enter their body and co-exist.
5) Yes, there are cases where someone has not realized the full extent of what that meant, and regretted their choice afterwards, but on the whole this is not what happens, because...
6) A symbiote seeks a powerful host, which means that host would be much more difficult to control. Thus, the symbiote seeks a person whose goals align with their own for a host, to eliminate the need for control.
7) In other words, anyone who takes on a symbiote has some less-than-savory goals.
8) The government of Kormyre (including the Great Council of Travance) only care about those goals if they would harm the people of Kormyre.
9) Chancellor Enzarond, who has willingly taken on a symbiote, has brought war to Kormyre and is currently trying to mentally enslave the entire nation.
10) Chancellor Enzarond is now an enemy of the Kingdom.
11) Anyone aiding the Chancellor, or actively preventing us from dealing with him, is also an enemy of Kormyre.
12) It is possible the Duke is being mentally enslaved by Chancellor True Warlock here. We will investigate that. If he is, it just adds to the list of crimes against the kingdom that the Chancellor has committed.
13) If the Duke is not being controlled, then he is an enemy all on his own, and will be dealt with accordingly.

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08 Apr 2019 15:17 #48 by Gabriel Chance (Kiellor)
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Oh man, I have...

The remnants are hard to describe with words. There's only so many ways you can write 'bloody pulp' before it becomes repetitive.

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08 Apr 2019 15:38 #49 by Zanthios Tartaros (Zanthios)
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To perhaps be brief, it had maybe been confirmed that:

The Duke could be mind could be mind controlled.

The Chancellor may not have known the extent of what the symbiote had offered

The Blazing Sun, according to previous posts and other talk, has used mind control tactics.

What if the Blazing Sun controlled the Chancellor’s mind to accept the symbiote?



More research is perhaps necessary.



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08 Apr 2019 15:40 #50 by Liz (Liz)
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Thank you Lady Heimdell. I’m grateful for your points and your sharing them.

Signed,

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08 Apr 2019 15:41 #51 by Gabriel Chance (Kiellor)
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It's ok,

When we kill them all the gods can sort out who did what and who is responsible for what and make sure they go to the right place.

That's how religion works I've been told.

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08 Apr 2019 16:02 #52 by Erik Silverfang (ASchleicher)
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Doctor what ever your name is,

The duke is a traitor to Kormyre.

You keep spouting this nonsense so you must be a traitor as well.

WE DO NOT DEFEND TRAITORS IN TRAVANCE.

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08 Apr 2019 16:44 #53 by Dame Laurent-Belmont (amalthea)
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Thank you, Lady Heimdall. Your ability to elucidate information in a concise and instructional manner is one of your most indispensable assets, and this town and its subjects are truly fortunate for you.

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08 Apr 2019 16:56 #54 by Jenn Cutter (Jenn)
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Willowwyn,

What you refuse to recognize is that some things are objectively true. As a physician, you should understand that. You wouldn't say "Perhaps this person doesn't need to breathe to live" or "Perhaps this person doesn't need their heart beating to live". But you insist that the objective truth that the Chancellor agreed to become a host to a true warlock is not true. And now when you have been corrected multiple times, you say that he might have been mind controlled into it. What do you benefit from trying to protect an obviously guilty man? Why does his theoretical innocence matter more to you than saving the lives he is destroying, even if its at the cost of killing him? Why do you support one man's life over thousands?

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08 Apr 2019 16:58 #55 by Midori Suarez (krykit)
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Willowyn,

If our words will not convince you, then by all means, do the research you would like to see done. I'm sure there is plenty of information on true warlocks at the scholar's table. It seems pretty clear that no one will change anyone's mind here. So you do your research. See if you can find a way to do remove the symbiote's influence from the host. We will focus on preventing them from doing more harm.

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08 Apr 2019 20:49 - 09 Apr 2019 15:01 #56 by Zanthios Tartaros (Zanthios)
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The bulk of responses perhaps do not disprove the possibility the message(s) in my previous statement.

Again, if the Blazing Sun can mind control people without consent from them, maybe the Duke and the Chancellor are innocent.

The possibility of the Blazing Sun mind controlling someone to accept a symbiote offer isn’t perhaps impossible.


Maybe more research is needed.




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08 Apr 2019 20:56 - 08 Apr 2019 20:57 #57 by Liz (Liz)
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Or you just don’t care about what anyone says. Hence the use of the word “perhaps” or “maybe.” You do what you are going to do anyways. And the rest of us will work to destroy what needs to be and what will be destroyed.

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08 Apr 2019 21:11 #58 by Kaiva (Kaiva Malakai)
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Excuse me, Dr. Cloud Willowyn. If you truly feel like blazing sun are involved in any capacity with the control over the mind of the Chancellor , then I think we that's a cause for concern. I'd be willing to hear you out, if you need someone to talk to, I'm sure your very stressed and I apologize for that. But you also need to be open in hearing these people out too. Let's talk! Hopefully we can sort all this mess out, a calm discussion is always welcomed. And I'd be willing to speak to you and the person your speaking so passionately about. Please look for me to speak. Have a blessed day!

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08 Apr 2019 21:36 #59 by Gabriel Chance (Kiellor)
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Then, as was indicated earlier. The Symbiote wouldn't take that. They want minds that are perfectly aligned with their goals to make it easier. A mind controlled person would not be an alike mind, that's not how any of that works. Yes I am an expert. Yes I do know what I'm talking about. No you do not have a counterargument to your point that actually makes sense or is worth exploring. The Chancellor is dead, will be killed and that's the end of that discussion. If you continue to support him you are a traitor to this place and should probably return to Grimwyr and to your masters service.

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09 Apr 2019 10:03 #60 by Benjamin Ashby (ThomasD)
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I'm starting to hate this guy more than the cult that sacrificed my parents.

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